Arm braces, gat cranks and “gun toys” fall into the same category. Remember that they are made for one purpose: to trap cleaning solvent residues so you can reuse them. charging 1000.00 for a 200.00 item? the big businesses are always behind it, they shit when they start to loose money. So as not to confuse, we do not carry Solvent Trap cups, cores, freeze plugs, internal filters or baffles. Those who feel this way obviously just want to make sure they are abiding by the law, but with a little research into the facts they will find it is 100 percent legal to own a solvent trap … The ATF could have simply arrested David Koresh on his daily jog. “18 U.S.C. Sure it’s a grey area of the law as they sold a legal product but I’m betting if this went to court then intent could be proven that these devices were designed to be used as suppressors. Or at least constructive manufacture? Yeah, just defunding them won’t stop them. You should be blaming the law itself. Meanwhile we gotta get a media Blitz going. We have “hate speech” because of a warping of “intent”. | The Legality of Solvent Traps. The GOP is in power–CONTACT YOUR CONGRESSMAN!!! Solvent Trap companies by commercial Suppressor manufacturers. This amount of stupid I’ve not heard of. Heller affirmed that portable arms were sn individual right. everytime someone has an idea, big money shits themselves, and gets rules changed. And, sam I am, try to sell a shotgun with a miter box, can of cold blue and a hacksaw and see where you get with a judge. But it appears that the ATF has just shut down one of the providers of such kits. For this task, work in an area where there is plenty of space. Not wanting to fund that, police chiefs would suddenly find they don’t want to seize much at all. Yes, the family could have called the police to collect the gun, but having a patrol car sit out front in that neighborhood would be a character flaw for everyone in the house, so they didn’t even consider making the call. Rescinding his approval after it was granted is a dick move but they didn’t add insult to injury by simply sending agents to arrest him for a now unlicensed MG. Best thing is, it is way cheaper than the actual suppressor and you can do-it-yourself at home. It also comes with a firearm adapter, which helps keep the fluid from dripping back to the barrel. Suppressors, solvent traps, and legal traps. No, David Koresh and the families (several families were British citizens, by the way) were assaulted, shot and burned alive. Ah, Sam, interesting rationale you bring up. Egalitarian libertarian society? The agency’s ability to write legally binding “opinions” would already be suspect to a lot of federal judges that’s not a game I think the ATF wants to play. What I am saying is a government agency that is a real and established “though police” is dangerous to humans and other living things. the atf is a fucking joke that the american people do not need any more just mine and several million more peoples opinion. SO WHATS NEXT..?? Happy to be semi-helpful. Despite that apparent approval, the ATF has shut down SD Tactical’s solvent trap business as of January 25th citing “constructive intent,” a regulatory concept used by the ATF which says possession of the materials to produce a regulated item is the same as possession of the actual item. Our Maglite solvent trap adapter kit was designed to replace the original ends on a standard D cell maglite housing. Visit our website and send us an email or contact us by phone. The solvent trap controversy comes against the backdrop of a national debate over how silencers should be regulated. And they were aware of this when they created the law. Sam, I understand the words you’re using. . If you are looking for an accessory that you can repurpose, you want a versatile gun solvent trap that allows for easy conversion. It either is or isn’t. Beware of “conservatives” appointed to the SC. If I download those instructions, can you safely infer that I have the intent to build a machine gun? Well if nothing else… this is what you need to build a surpressor. In fact, the number of vacancies in the lesser courts must become a priority of the Trump administration to fill. GUNS! A good prosecutor can sell “intent” quite easily. I don’t like the law and hope the the HPA gets passed soon, but I know if I start playing in grey areas I’d better be ready to get called on it and defend my position. The bad will still do what they want. Actually the law says shall not be infringed. Now if someone would work with the ATF to figure out want a 80% suppressor is, that would be nice. I know, you might have a bunch of people buying cool things and having fun in their backyards or at ranges. A punishment that completely dismisses any higher concept of reform and rehabilitation and creates a subculture of permanent criminals with no hope to remedy past mistakes. Solvent traps can be purchased legally without a Form 1. Next it will be what we do for pleasure, not crime! Less common parts, but hardly bank breaking either. Soooooo when budwiser puts out a psa durring the super bowl reminding people not to drink and drive its tacit acknowledgment that the product they sell will be used to brake the law and budwiser,… ney, ALL alcohol companies need to be shut down?….. i think their lawyers are better than SD tactical and the ATF went after the low hanging fruit. Breaking – ATF shust down all grocery and convenience stores and vending machines due to the availability of 20 oz and 2 liter bottled soft drinks. Actually, this ruling can be taken all the way back to the dirt from which the materials are derived. I’m betting if the “solvent traps” were made out of plastic this would not have been an issue, The company made a point of selling a product that could easily be converted to a suppressor and was built to withstand use as one. At all? Today they shut us down. ), but no other collection of materials proves intent to commit a crime? Solvent trap kits aren’t regulated as firearms, so any retailer can sell the parts. get a custom solvent trap. This can be purchased separately. Just do it the right way, you will all pay more but sleep better at night. While it is technically true that you are in violation from the moment their new letter is drafted I doubt the ATF wants to argue before a federal judge that they can arbitrarily change the law and then make arrests without even attempting to inform people that their opinion, and therefore “the law” has changed. So, why the difference? SD probably pushed someone or something or fucked up. Let us know how we can assist you! A gun solvent trap is a separate kit that requires minor assembly. Also, try and sell that 80% lower with lower parts kit with a regular stock and 14 inch upper in the same box. Why Does the ABA Have a Standing Committee on ‘Gun Violence’. ”, I have an FFL and a Class 3 license and I’m always asking the agents questions like these… depending on who I talk to I have gotten different answers so I end up having to ask for an “ATF Opinion Letter” from the technical services branch… It is where we have come, it is where we are. It is currently the quickest way to a suppressor. With the Hearing Protection Act on the horizon it seems everyone and their brother is making a suppressor and getting ready for the (hoped for) flood of new can owners. Which would be why you now see certain little black ‘boxes’ under the ubiquitous proliferation of facial recognition cameras endlessly popping up not yet but almost everywhere which are ‘sound recognition and location origination detectors’ that can pinpoint and gps the location of a gunshot! You can make your own gun (and I have, just to say I have), but you can’t make your own suppressor, for reasons that make no sense. Having owned a gun for some time now, you may already be aware of the things that can happen when you become negligent about gun maintenance. Back in the day I did’t need a license to go crabbing. High quality solvent trap designed to collect your volatile cleaning solvents used while cleaning your firearm. Slavery was the law, execution of Jews was the law. Choosing a gun solvent trap depends on what style, colors, or material appeals to you the most. ATF is salivating at the opportunity to seize their CNC machines on the slightest pretext….. so you are not far off. Other companies are still here doing build it yourself kits the right way. A point of law is that there is no prior restraint because you can’t prove, absent testimony thereto, intent – and thus you cannot stop a man on his way to a street corner with a soapbox intending to preach sedition. If you dispute this, define for me exactly the point at which ATF’s “intent” begins and ends. But he was quick to call them a silencer kit. This type of malfunction is dangerous as the gun may explode. And, give me a f’ing break about veterans being put out of work. Chadwick: you just said they were silencer kits in you first post. Then why do suppressors from big name companies cost more than the solvent traps? They’d just get on the UnConstitutional bandwagon with other Police State rights violators and start ‘integrating’ their raids with drug raids so they could share in the attendant asset forfeiture for profit scam. Solvent traps and/or solvent trap kits can be purchased legally without a Form 1. This flip flop bs needs to stop. Maybe that is what brought down the ATF? This means that all metal stock, drills, taps, millers, lathes, and all hand tools that can be used to fabricate a silencer are now illegal, including duct tape and pillows. Despite numerous letters stating that the ATF believes a “pistol arm brace” does not make an AR pistol an SBR no matter how it is used, the ATF reversed its own decision two years ago and confusion has reigned ever since. When the balance between good and evil is just about at stasis, good will depend upon the self-evident as a barrier to debasement. KM Tactical offers solvent trap kits at cheap prices. ATF and FBI concluded that they were now in the social services business, and their responsibilities included armed raids into a home where guns were located because…guns. ! How about an aluminum 80% CZ-82 or something? The stated intent of a solvent trap is to catch and trap gun cleaning solvent during bore cleaning operations commonly performed on firearms. Well, I suppose they should get their last bit of licks in before they get told to STFU and do their actual jobs properly. Actually, anything that can be attached to the barrel to catch the solvent can be classified as a solvent trap. NAPA can’t even sell them to us because they are a suppressor part. On the other hand, it doesn’t load itself automatically so it might rationally be argued to be a volley gun with a single barrel. Each person is different, so you may have unique requirements. That means I would have to wait until you commit a crime before you are arrested (“conspiracy law” that preempts is more “thought police”). The fact that the ATF, for no apparent reason, unilaterally re-defined “silencer” (after once declaring the kits were NOT controlled firearms) is the give-away clue. Here’s another thought experiment: Suppose a company takes out an ad in American Rifleman and Guns & Ammo titled: “Home-made silencer kits! I would stay away from any aluminum tube solvent … Because firearms are built with heavy-duty materials to make them last. “The intent was there! How courageous of you to hide your name while accusing me of a weak response. You have entered an incorrect email address! If SD TACTICAL wants to warn you not to break the law, so be it … they don’t tell you to do it, they tell you not to do it unless/until you have the nod from ATF to do it properly. But SST (ShotSpotter Technology) has been evolving below radar for several years now very rapidly under the previous Obama regime right ‘up there’ with the aforementioned private identity invading and location tracking cameras,hundred of small private aircraft (Cessnas,pipers, etc. They hold no liablilty in misuse of their products, which the ATF previously stated were perfectly legal. I say we secede, fight a guerilla war for six months, get forced back in to the union, hang all the traitors, impose federal law on the state, get some supressors and AOW’s, and live happily ever after. Do not expect that to change much. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. “However, the Branch Davidians could have resolved the situation at any time by simply walking out with their hands up.”. Wide-spread acquisition of suppressors by the public just might represent a leveling of the field. For this task, work in an area where there is plenty of space. So we started doing some research. Small Cell Patriot Tyranny Resistance groups ambushing Totalitarian Occupation forces and resources, ESPECIALLY with indirect sniping attacks would immediately send a gunshot signature to the nearest SST device which would GPS a location detection within a few feet of the shot simultaneously alerting rapid response government units or Armed Drones (North Dakota Sheriff’s Departments are already deploying these armed drones by permission of their State legislatures) to trap and take out the sniper/ambush Resistance teams before they get away or do much damage. Solvent Trap Kits. /poortaste. ince most chemicals used for gun cleaning are expensive, the solvent trap can collect them to be re-used. designs were developed to make them more stylish and flexible. You will also need to prepare the following: There are caliber-specific cleaning kits available, which already includes the materials that you need. As a solvent trap owner, you are solely responsible for what you do with your solvent trap. But I have an idea to cut it back drastically: all proceeds from asset forfeitures should go to fund a public defender’s office on par with the prosecutor’s office, with the added authority of being able to prosecute cops found crooked in any case. There is no way you can argue that a “solvent” trap needs to have multiple baffles in it (even if they are not drilled out). Op-Ed Piece: Our site carries affordable legal Solvent Traps, Solvent Trap Kits and Solvent Trap parts made of carbon steel, aluminum and titanium.. Visit our website and send us an email or contact us by phone. Unfortunately, there is precedence in government contract law. I ended up buying an all titanium suppressor (with lifetime warranty/support) on GunBroker for like $75 more than a solvent trap. I wonder what his face would look like if you duct taped a pillow to it . They are devices that are attached to the rifle’s threaded muzzle to capture cleaning solvents or fluids. What country are you living in? that should be a 10.00 fee.? Local police did not have warrants for Davidians, because there were no crimes requiring search or arrest. Had a family member in another jurisdiction, who turned over an old .32 revolver found in one of grannie’s shoe boxes, after she died. maybe the links to YouTube videos on how to actually assemble a suppressor from the parts they sell, maybe because they were a one stop shop to get all the supplies for a suppressor. Public safety is more important than convenience.”. And again, how does this group of materials prove something called “intent” (mind-reading by authorities is OK, now? Instead they demand you surrender the item to avoid prosecution. To appreciate the almost can’t Aluminum sheet is the source of freeze plugs, the source of elements of the “suppressor” outlawed by the ATF. We are adding new tactical gear and gun parts all the time so make sure you return often to check out our latest. Solvent traps do attach to the muzzle of a firearm but do not have any design features intended to allow a bullet to pass through them. Solvent trap kits are available from gun and gun accessory suppliers. stop buying thier products… Surefire should just make over priced flashlights ill still buy my 20.00 china made 1200 lumen lights!! Blame the people who passed it. its stupid that ig evfn exists. Here’s SD Tactical’s statement: As of today the ATF shut down our business of selling solvent traps. When you consider that you have to pay $200, do fingerprints. One-fifth are as I described, and the other two-fifths don’t really care, they just want to get their paycheck. They should just be another accessory, like a stock or a flash hider. And the REAL reason they don’t want the rapid proliferation of ‘waiting to be made in to silencer’ solvent traps as these companies are doing without the tracking ability of a Class 3 stamp and I.D. Not from an 80% lower, but from stuff lying around my shop. When the gun’s reliability is affected, it’s almost useless unless you have it cleaned by a professional, which is often. Constructive intent is bs as well. Very interesting, this latest OCD the ATF has with sound suppressors. The ATF should be sued for failure to perform their duties. He said tubes and freeze plugs were suppressor parts. The whole reign of terror that was Bill Clinton’s presidency was full of these illegal acts that were just ignored by so many of us citizens. You can use a disposable bin or drip pan to catch the cleaning chemicals, but using a solvent trap is less messy. Which brings up another twisted complication. rights is understandable, but the only remaining absolute right is abortion on demand. The current protocol is to shoot AT the dog(s), “miss,” and take out at least one resident. It is no longer an Egalitarian paradigm framed in liberty and justice as the Founders attempted to design and establish. Dangerous situation. So what’s the answer? They were trying to do the right thing, but the police were just so happy to arrest another criminal. Time will tell, but with every day, the motion back to strict construction and decentralization seems to be picking up steam. Wait for approval. lionsfan54 no laws are broken with this unless someone buys from them and makes a suppressor without the proper paperwork its simple but the ATF has absolutely no common sense what so ever. I have, and still can, legally make a firearm for my own use. We do not customize these. firearm, including any combination of parts, designed or redesigned, Or must they endure jumping through stressful life disrupting hassles to prevent themselves from tyrannical abuse causing serious personal damages of untold monetary loss do to the debilitating fear of jackbooted WACO style Police State Gestapo flash banging them out of bed at 4am and causing families to be terrified and traumatized for the rest of their Fucking LIVES! ^lol this. Just like the British did back in the day. He also reviews whiskey and talks about woodworking at. However, it was bulky, making aiming inconvenient. If you would like to use solvent traps as it is, you can go with a standard build. We say that same reasoning on this blog only a few days ago. No, most of these “kits” are being used for just what you think… Remember the Golden 80’s when there were advertisements to buy a threaded tube from Catawaba tubing in the Shotgun News and a few pages later you could buy “for replacement purposes only” full internal suppressor parts kits for very little money? Except according to this, you’d better not even have anything in your house or shop that could be used to make a suppressor until you have that stamp. You are correct. This is just Obama’s last jab using his favorite junkyard dog Gestapo agency to bitch slap Free American Patriots. Save your ears at low cost!” The kit contains a Tootsie Roll, some Scotch Tape, a Ziploc bag full of sand, and some peanut butter. They have been around for some, time now, but with a different look. Why? Instead of trying to get around the law change it. Gun owners can reuse the solvent to save money, and be environmentally conscious at the same time. I would NOT recommend doing that. 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